Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.

TOZ · Post by **TOZ** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:26 pm

Lord Mistborn wrote:At this point the only reason anyone still follows OotS is they've followed it for years and they want to see the ending goddamnit.

Much the way I treat Megatokyo, although the Giant has nothing on Fred's lack of updates.

Ice9 · Post by **Ice9** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:14 pm

So it seems that the answer to "Why don't the various priests there dust Durkula now, since he's no longer protected?" is that apparently a bunch of Clerics all have low Wisdom scores. Naturally.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:15 pm

The Daily Show had Greg Gutland on to talk to. Gutland said that he is a "Right Wing Liberal"

...can anyone tell me what the fuck that means!?

Shady314 · Post by **Shady314** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:25 pm

Prak wrote:The Daily Show had Greg Gutland on to talk to. Gutland said that he is a "Right Wing Liberal"

...can anyone tell me what the fuck that means!?

Greg Gutfeld isn't it.

Someone who supports some policies considered right wing and also some policies considered liberal? Like one may be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Or maybe he just means he's centre right?

I mean I don't know if he is or not. He may just be bullshitting on a left leaning program to win people over. But its not really that hard to wrap your head around the concept that someone may not follow a particular platform 100% in lockstep is it?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:33 pm

Apparently "Right Wing Liberal" is a thing, also known as Conservative Liberalism, but Wikipedia doesn't tell me what these oxymorons believe.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:00 am

Everywhere except the U.S., 'liberal' means 'supports business owners.' What the US calls 'liberal,' everywhere else calls socialist. Conservative Liberals combine non-US liberalism with regressive social politics, like hating on minority rights. I think the best examples of Conservative Liberals in the US would be neocons like George W. Basically the establishment Republicans.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:12 am

I see. I figured it was something like that.

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:54 am

I don't know how WWE is gonna fuck up Shinsuke Nakamura, but I'm already mad about it.

PhoneLobster · Post by **PhoneLobster** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:40 am

I suddenly don't like Tim Minchin very much anymore.

Why? Because I suddenly realized just how much of a lame non-topical easy ride protest folk singer he is compared to well, almost anyone but specifically at the occasion of coming to this conclusion, Phil Ochs in particular.

My knowledge of Minchin's full discography isn't 100% but from everything I can recall ever being exposed to Tom Lehrer had more balls than Tim.

Whipstitch · Post by **Whipstitch** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:23 pm

Minchin's your bog standard religious skeptic so yeah, he doesn't do anything more ballsy than crap on molestation cover-ups. Phil Ochs laps him when it comes to stridently giving a fuck.

tussock · Post by **tussock** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:34 am

Tim Minchin:

1) "If I didn't have you": the idea of fate is preposterous, but also nice.
2) "Not perfect": not even significant, but it feels good to be.
3) "White wine in the sun": worldly things are the business.
4) "The pope song": that guy was a extraordinarily bad choice for pope.

He's all about how being a privileged white guy from a rich country is actually really fucking nice, and also that science and stats and understanding in general (including all the ambiguity and stuff) is the cause of almost all of those nice things, and the sort of religious or hippy reactionary thinking that rebels against it all is stupid, bad for you, and a danger to our community well-being.

Also that he wanted to be a rock star but this gig is all he could manage, and he's totally lucked out to be famous for it because it's not like he's a proper protest singer, or a good artist, or anything.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:57 pm

I just learned today that Scott Adams supports Trump.

I really try to like the work and not the author, but this is kinda straining my lenience.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:36 pm

Shrapnel wrote:I just learned today that Scott Adams supports Trump.

I really try to like the work and not the author, but this is kinda straining my lenience.

I'm not sure why that is a surprise. Trump is a misogynist racist crazy person who relies on other people doing the work, abusing the system, and then genuinely believing his success is somehow based on his own excellence.

Scott Adams is... literally exactly that.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:57 pm

I dunno, I guess it was mostly me wanting to believe that Adams had at least SOME redeeming qualities. Oh, well.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:36 pm

Shrapnel wrote:I dunno, I guess it was mostly me wanting to believe that Adams had at least SOME redeeming qualities. Oh, well.

I have never learned something new about Scott Adams that made me like him more. He started as the writer of Dilbert, and went to climate-change denier, MRA, and now Trump-supporter.

I don't expect to find out that he's trying to resurrect Hitler, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that out.

erik · Post by **erik** » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:34 pm

RobbyPants wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:I dunno, I guess it was mostly me wanting to believe that Adams had at least SOME redeeming qualities. Oh, well.
I have never learned something new about Scott Adams that made me like him more. He started as the writer of Dilbert, and went to climate-change denier, MRA, and now Trump-supporter.

I don't expect to find out that he's trying to resurrect Hitler, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that out.

Don't forget evolution denier and used sock puppets on his own forum.
More recently he suggested that Trump didn't win Iowa as he predicted because of election fraud.

Adams is a fuckin nutter's nutter.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:51 pm

Omegonthesane wrote:Hopefully this is the part where Roy decides to notice that his sword isn't living and kills Durkula by throwing it. Or failing that, since it pulled out "green light that does agg damage to vampires" he finds a way to also pull out Dispel Magic.

Or one of the priests hears the vampires talk, goes "The fuck with this!" and murders them. Anything other than dragging this bullshit another panel.

Well, as of the latest comic, it looks like Roy's sword has become a Weapon of Legacy, Roy is retroactively gaining magical powers, and he just got a book to help him learn more.

SlyJohnny · Post by **SlyJohnny** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:38 pm

I dunno, the recent OOTs stuff makes sense to me. Possibly one of the "No" voting clerics could have followed what was going on quick enough to kill Durkula or at least prevent him from escaping, I suppose, but equally, it's a weird situation, and not every high level priest is necessarily an adventurer with catlike reflexes, and the "Yes" voters want their vote to go through and don't necessarily care what Hel does with the dwarves, and might have blocked any attempt to fuck with Durkula; Heimdal is the only deity who is confirmed to want to change his vote in light of this new information, and his priest is defaulting to assuming that his deity's original vote was correct, rather than assuming he was tricked.

The Creed of Stone vampire spawn are dominated by Durkula, in the same way that Durkula was an emotionless drone that served Malack, until Malack got killed and he was released to serve his own agenda. If Durkula dies, or chooses to release them for whatever reason, then they'll do whatever they or their creator-deity thinks best, but for now, they're just spawn.

And of COURSE they have strict rules that prevent violence between high priests. This is an ancient moot that allows the representative of the god of Death and Scary Necromancy to come together with the representative of the god of Light and Paladins, and vote on issues of world-affecting importance. The only way that works is if the rules are rigidly enforced, hard to change, and breaking them is punishable by death. The first few moots were probably a clusterfuck and a bloodbath before the current system allowed people to at least talk to each other long enough to cast their votes.

A lot of people seem to be thinking that the No voters could openly work to subvert the rules and brigade the vote, while the Yes voters sat around twiddling their thumbs and just allowed Team No to fuck with the vote and cause their side to lose (and then, possibly, for the entire world and it's deities to be eaten by the Snarl).

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:24 pm

1) The Yes voters literally got surprised tricked. You assumption that all the gods are totally fine with their original votes and/or incapable of communicating their changed opinions to their Clerics is dumb.

2) The failure to kill the goddam Vampires are like .000001% of the problem. Why do you have a fucking Moot that isn't Dimensional Locked? Why are gods too stupid to notice a DC 20 sense motive check on their dominated council members? Those are the real questions, not "Well hur dur, why didn't they kill the guy who had no reason to even stay there in the first place."

Omegonthesane · Post by **Omegonthesane** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:11 pm

Kaelik wrote:1) The Yes voters literally got surprised tricked. You assumption that all the gods are totally fine with their original votes and/or incapable of communicating their changed opinions to their Clerics is dumb.

2) The failure to kill the goddam Vampires are like .000001% of the problem. Why do you have a fucking Moot that isn't Dimensional Locked? Why are gods too stupid to notice a DC 20 sense motive check on their dominated council members? Those are the real questions, not "Well hur dur, why didn't they kill the guy who had no reason to even stay there in the first place."

What is even the point of having it block a Sending and not block an outright Teleport?

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:19 pm

Omegonthesane wrote:
Kaelik wrote:1) The Yes voters literally got surprised tricked. You assumption that all the gods are totally fine with their original votes and/or incapable of communicating their changed opinions to their Clerics is dumb.

2) The failure to kill the goddam Vampires are like .000001% of the problem. Why do you have a fucking Moot that isn't Dimensional Locked? Why are gods too stupid to notice a DC 20 sense motive check on their dominated council members? Those are the real questions, not "Well hur dur, why didn't they kill the guy who had no reason to even stay there in the first place."
What is even the point of having it block a Sending and not block an outright Teleport?

STUPID PLOT CONVENIENCE BECAUSE RICH BURLEW CAN'T WRITE A GODDAM STORY THAT DOESN'T SUCK.

Count Arioch the 28th · Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:47 pm

Can anyone write a story that assumes high-level D&D stuff that doesn't suck? I've never read one myself.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:25 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Can anyone write a story that assumes high-level D&D stuff that doesn't suck? I've never read one myself.

Dying Earth. Creatures of Light and Darkness. So, Zelazny and Vance.

-Username17

Blicero · Post by **Blicero** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:10 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Can anyone write a story that assumes high-level D&D stuff that doesn't suck? I've never read one myself.

Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen, probably.

Schleiermacher · Post by **Schleiermacher** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:14 pm

I was about to mention that too, but I wasn't really sure if it "assumes high-level stuff". I mean, it's about the only fiction I've ever seen that has D&D-style high-level warriors and monsters, and it's good at integrating magic and mages in the setting from top to bottom, but while they're great at blasting and travel magic, Malazan mages don't do a lot of other things that high-level D&D casters do.